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	<title>Comments on: Safari 3.1 introduces web fonts for all</title>
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	<description>Thoughts on web development and technologies by Peter Gasston</description>
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		<title>By: A million ways to embed custom fonts (and keep typography nerds off your back) &#124; Jon Raasch's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-36288</link>
		<dc:creator>A million ways to embed custom fonts (and keep typography nerds off your back) &#124; Jon Raasch's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] such a good idea that it was written into the CSS2 specifications by the W3C and is already being supported by Safari as well as betas for Firefox and Opera. However the EOT format is owned by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] such a good idea that it was written into the CSS2 specifications by the W3C and is already being supported by Safari as well as betas for Firefox and Opera. However the EOT format is owned by […]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-35421</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chrome more or less supports everything Safari does, but not quite; I don&#039;t know all the differences, but there aren&#039;t many of them.

Should we use CSS3 already? Of course, as long as you make sure your content is still accessible and readable to people using older browsers. Things like rounded corners, shadows and web fonts can easily be used in a progressive way.

That&#039;s sort of related to your second question; I wouldn&#039;t purposely make an &#039;ugly&#039; website for IE6, but I think it&#039;s acceptable to make a website that looks nicer in modern browsers. If it&#039;s your own website, then the decision is yours to make; if it&#039;s for a client, then you have to allow them the choice. I do think it&#039;s acceptable to charge more to make a client website look identical even in IE6.

Hope that helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chrome more or less supports everything Safari does, but not quite; I don’t know all the differences, but there aren’t many of them.</p>
<p>Should we use CSS3 already? Of course, as long as you make sure your content is still accessible and readable to people using older browsers. Things like rounded corners, shadows and web fonts can easily be used in a progressive way.</p>
<p>That’s sort of related to your second question; I wouldn’t purposely make an ‘ugly’ website for IE6, but I think it’s acceptable to make a website that looks nicer in modern browsers. If it’s your own website, then the decision is yours to make; if it’s for a client, then you have to allow them the choice. I do think it’s acceptable to charge more to make a client website look identical even in IE6.</p>
<p>Hope that helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Camilo Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-35419</link>
		<dc:creator>Camilo Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick reply and quite a nice and informative website! :)

You say Chrome supports it, but being WebKit-based makes Chrome inherit all CSS3 virtues of Safari correct?

By the way, abusing of you with two quick questions:

Should we use CSS3 already or wait a couple of years or so until it&#039;s more widespread? (and less people use that ugly IE, even IE8 is outdated!)

And, is it ok to make a ugly version of a website for IE6? I mean, totally forget about trying to make it look nice, and be as simplistic as possible with design? (along with a unintrusive message asking users to upgrade to FF or Chrome)

Thanks =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick reply and quite a nice and informative website! :)</p>
<p>You say Chrome supports it, but being WebKit-based makes Chrome inherit all CSS3 virtues of Safari correct?</p>
<p>By the way, abusing of you with two quick questions:</p>
<p>Should we use CSS3 already or wait a couple of years or so until it’s more widespread? (and less people use that ugly IE, even IE8 is outdated!)</p>
<p>And, is it ok to make a ugly version of a website for IE6? I mean, totally forget about trying to make it look nice, and be as simplistic as possible with design? (along with a unintrusive message asking users to upgrade to FF or Chrome)</p>
<p>Thanks =)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-35418</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Camilo,

Yes, Firefox now supports this too. Chrome, also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Camilo,</p>
<p>Yes, Firefox now supports this too. Chrome, also.</p>
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		<title>By: Camilo Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-35417</link>
		<dc:creator>Camilo Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 13:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I think FF3.5.5 did render the font. Am I wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I think FF3.5.5 did render the font. Am I wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Resources &#124; Petra G. Yocum</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-14960</link>
		<dc:creator>Resources &#124; Petra G. Yocum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 02:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Safari 3.1 introduces web fonts for all [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A jövő stílusa at ‹Webakadémia /›</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-14194</link>
		<dc:creator>A jövő stílusa at ‹Webakadémia /›</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] CSS 3 kiválasztót, a text-shadow-t, a @media query-ket, a letölthető web betűkészleteket (@font-face), a font-stretch és word-wrap [...]</description>
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		<title>By: New features in Firefox 3.1 and&#160;beyond &#124; Broken Links</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-13328</link>
		<dc:creator>New features in Firefox 3.1 and&#160;beyond &#124; Broken Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] typography, font-stretch and word-wrap are on their way, along with my favourite feature of all: @font-face! There will also be a lot of existing CSS [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Safari 3.1 - Why Safari pissed me off &#124; t.blog</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-10505</link>
		<dc:creator>Safari 3.1 - Why Safari pissed me off &#124; t.blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 14:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more on @font-face and how it works, check out this @font-font explanation.  Filed under browsers, css, design &#124; Share This (Help break Wordpress)     Leave a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lepsza alternatywa w świecie przeglądarek &#124; grezlikowski.pl</title>
		<link>http://www.broken-links.com/2008/03/18/safari-31-introduces-web-fonts-for-all/comment-page-1/#comment-10140</link>
		<dc:creator>Lepsza alternatywa w świecie przeglądarek &#124; grezlikowski.pl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Apple udostępniło Safari dla systemów Windows. Były co prawda małe problemy z licencją, o czym wspominałem na blogu Pawła Wimmera, ale już jest OK. Warto się przekonać, jak Safari radzi sobie ze specyfikacją CSS3. Szczególnie interesująca jest obsługa font-face. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] Apple udostępniło Safari dla systemów Windows. Były co prawda małe problemy z licencją, o czym wspominałem na blogu Pawła Wimmera, ale już jest OK. Warto się przekonać, jak Safari radzi sobie ze specyfikacją CSS3. Szczególnie interesująca jest obsługa font-face. […]</p>
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