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	<title>Comments on: The CSS Eleven: Style or substance?</title>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Beth,

Don&#039;t get me wrong about any of the individuals involved; those that I&#039;ve met or spoken to don&#039;t seem to be self-aggrandising at all, and I use many of their books regularly. My complaint was about the nature of the presentation of the group only.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Beth,</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong about any of the individuals involved; those that I’ve met or spoken to don’t seem to be self-aggrandising at all, and I use many of their books regularly. My complaint was about the nature of the presentation of the group only.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your assessment.

It has been bothering me  since I attended An Event Apart and SxSW that these &quot;superstars&quot; in web development are only interested in how big their star actually gets - not furthering the state of the web.  Hence, why so very little has been done.

Even more, I dislike people&#039;s pompous attitudes, their elitist status, and the groupie fanaticism that follow them around from event to event.  It just bothers me, you know?  If any good was coming from this, I would be completely changed of heart - because they would deserve all the googley eyed adoring fans.  But... I haven&#039;t seen it.  Most of these stars don&#039;t even produce substance on their websites . If they have all this knowledge and motivation to change the web - why don&#039;t they share it with the people instead of regurgitating the same preachy, semantic, beginner nonsense in glossy, beautiful but over-hyped books?

Perhaps this group will actually get something done, I hope so, I really do.  The web is in a stagnant state of disrepair.  But to me, seeing these names, it&#039;s just another way to raise fame and essentially lead to more $$ in their pockets.

...not to rant like a bitter developer or anything :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your assessment.</p>
<p>It has been bothering me  since I attended An Event Apart and SxSW that these “superstars” in web development are only interested in how big their star actually gets — not furthering the state of the web.  Hence, why so very little has been done.</p>
<p>Even more, I dislike people’s pompous attitudes, their elitist status, and the groupie fanaticism that follow them around from event to event.  It just bothers me, you know?  If any good was coming from this, I would be completely changed of heart — because they would deserve all the googley eyed adoring fans.  But… I haven’t seen it.  Most of these stars don’t even produce substance on their websites . If they have all this knowledge and motivation to change the web — why don’t they share it with the people instead of regurgitating the same preachy, semantic, beginner nonsense in glossy, beautiful but over-hyped books?</p>
<p>Perhaps this group will actually get something done, I hope so, I really do.  The web is in a stagnant state of disrepair.  But to me, seeing these names, it’s just another way to raise fame and essentially lead to more $$ in their pockets.</p>
<p>…not to rant like a bitter developer or anything :P</p>
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		<title>By: Citizensheep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Citizensheep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;CSS Eleven: good idea, but there are a lot more than eleven of us using CSS...&lt;/strong&gt;

CSS Eleven – an international group of eleven web developers and designers – intends to explain and illustrate the various CSS modules as they are developed.
I&#8217;m not sure I like the sound of this. Their existing web page (which seems to keep ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>CSS Eleven: good idea, but there are a lot more than eleven of us using CSS…</strong></p>
<p>CSS Eleven – an international group of eleven web developers and designers – intends to explain and illustrate the various CSS modules as they are developed.<br />
I’m not sure I like the sound of this. Their existing web page (which seems to keep …</p>
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